豐田可能會賭一把??
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目前大車隊人事幾乎都定局了~kimi何去何從?回麥拉倫??有小黑在那邊作怪~雷諾??跟kimi完全不搭 索伯??藍色法拉利??<br><br>狀況不明~~<br><br>豐田一直希望能爭冠 可是到現在一冠難求 也沒在頒獎台上奏起日本國歌<br><br>豐田如果認真要跟他拚了~就可能邀請kimi加盟 畢竟豐田也是廠隊 拚一年沒爭到冠軍就別玩了?!難得市場上有冠軍車手可以爭取<br><br><br>就看<br><br>後續發展了~<br><br>所以 看到有網友說有可能或是不可能<br><br>其實還很難說~
Never give up~
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Kimi Raikkonen is one of the drivers Toyota are targeting for next season as they consider a new line-up for 2010.
"We have always expressed interest in Kimi," said Toyota's motorsport president John Howett on Friday.
Raikkonen says he has not yet decided what to do when he leaves Ferrari in November, though he is being tipped for a return to former team McLaren.
The Finn said he would only consider driving for a competitive team and that he could even walk away from the sport.
Toyota, who made their debut in 2002 but have never won a Formula 1 race, have Italian Jarno Trulli and Germany's Timo Glock driving for them at present but are now hoping to lure more high-profile names such as Raikkonen, who won the drivers' world championship in 2007.
Speaking ahead of the Japanese Grand Prix, Howett said Trulli was very unlikely to stay.
He added that the team have allowed an option on Glock, second in Singapore last weekend, to lapse.
"I think he did a fantastic job in Singapore and we are talking to him, but honestly speaking we feel that could have been the result in other races if we could qualify in that position," said Howett.
"I am sorry, it is very a tough life, and our job is to deliver results.
"He [Glock] could still be in the car next year but we wanted to keep our options open. And if we didn't release him by a certain date, we would be fixed for 2010."
Howett also insisted Toyota was an attractive option to the top drivers.
"We know who we would like in the car and we are working hard on it," he said.
"We need to keep all our options open, and to be able to catch somebody if the opportunity comes, we need two seats available.
"We like Timo very much, he did a great job, but still we have a car that is more regularly capable of being on the podium and much closer to the top this year. We are not delivering, and there are things beyond the team and the chassis itself.
He added: "I think there is a lot of uncertainty about a lot of teams to be honest, we seem to be the focus of everybody's attention.
"But to be blunt, there are a lot of teams that on the inside we hear rumours of that are more severe than our condition.
"I think there should be at least one or two [top drivers] seriously interested to come."
BMW-Sauber's Polish driver Robert Kubica, who is widely expected to take Fernando Alonso's place at Renault when the double world champion replaces Raikkonen at Ferrari, could be another target.
"Definitely we would be interested but we're probably fighting with Renault," he said.
"We have to see what happens, hopefully we can manage but if not, there are alternatives. I think we have an even chance."
Speaking to BBC Sport, Howett also dismissed talk that Toyota might not compete in F1 in 2010.
"I'm sure we're going to be here next season," he said. "We're working flat out on the 2010 car."
Kimi Raikkonen is one of the drivers Toyota are targeting for next season as they consider a new line-up for 2010.
"We have always expressed interest in Kimi," said Toyota's motorsport president John Howett on Friday.
Raikkonen says he has not yet decided what to do when he leaves Ferrari in November, though he is being tipped for a return to former team McLaren.
The Finn said he would only consider driving for a competitive team and that he could even walk away from the sport.
Toyota, who made their debut in 2002 but have never won a Formula 1 race, have Italian Jarno Trulli and Germany's Timo Glock driving for them at present but are now hoping to lure more high-profile names such as Raikkonen, who won the drivers' world championship in 2007.
Speaking ahead of the Japanese Grand Prix, Howett said Trulli was very unlikely to stay.
He added that the team have allowed an option on Glock, second in Singapore last weekend, to lapse.
"I think he did a fantastic job in Singapore and we are talking to him, but honestly speaking we feel that could have been the result in other races if we could qualify in that position," said Howett.
"I am sorry, it is very a tough life, and our job is to deliver results.
"He [Glock] could still be in the car next year but we wanted to keep our options open. And if we didn't release him by a certain date, we would be fixed for 2010."
Howett also insisted Toyota was an attractive option to the top drivers.
"We know who we would like in the car and we are working hard on it," he said.
"We need to keep all our options open, and to be able to catch somebody if the opportunity comes, we need two seats available.
"We like Timo very much, he did a great job, but still we have a car that is more regularly capable of being on the podium and much closer to the top this year. We are not delivering, and there are things beyond the team and the chassis itself.
He added: "I think there is a lot of uncertainty about a lot of teams to be honest, we seem to be the focus of everybody's attention.
"But to be blunt, there are a lot of teams that on the inside we hear rumours of that are more severe than our condition.
"I think there should be at least one or two [top drivers] seriously interested to come."
BMW-Sauber's Polish driver Robert Kubica, who is widely expected to take Fernando Alonso's place at Renault when the double world champion replaces Raikkonen at Ferrari, could be another target.
"Definitely we would be interested but we're probably fighting with Renault," he said.
"We have to see what happens, hopefully we can manage but if not, there are alternatives. I think we have an even chance."
Speaking to BBC Sport, Howett also dismissed talk that Toyota might not compete in F1 in 2010.
"I'm sure we're going to be here next season," he said. "We're working flat out on the 2010 car."
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TOYOTA今年的車並不慢,如果明年持續進步,
或許也是一個選擇!
或許也是一個選擇!
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| 目前大車隊人事幾乎都定局了~kimi何去何從?回麥拉倫??有小黑在那邊作怪~雷諾??跟kimi完全不搭 索伯??藍色法拉利?? 狀況不明~~ 豐田一直希望能爭冠 可是到現在一冠難求 也沒在頒獎台上奏起日本國歌 豐田如果認真要跟他拚了~就可能邀請kimi加盟 畢竟豐田也是廠隊 拚一年沒爭到冠軍就別玩了?!難得市場上有冠軍車手可以爭取 就看 後續發展了~ 所以 看到有網友說有可能或是不可能 其實還很難說~ | |||
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回應 moto2008 (Casey) 所寫KIMI說實在的不太可能去TOYOTA,他之前也說了,他不去小車隊跟沒有競爭力的車隊,當然在F1底一下什麼事情都還是很難說
回麥拉倫,除非小柯確定離開他才有可能進去,他跟小柯是好朋友,又是同袍,所以他還是會禮讓一下,再來FIA明年可能解禁引擎的研發,讓所以有車隊的引擎都達到一樣的水準....所以TOYOTA會不會有所長進ㄋ...
拭目以待吧....
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kimi雖然說過只會開大車隊的車, 但toyota的車怎看都是沒競爭力
始終是研發人才和車隊文化問題
就以schumi去ferrari為例, 當時同期也有jean todt和ross brawn加盟
才做到由管理, 賽車到比賽三方面的全面結合
renault也起碼有老布無條件支持alonso才能造就兩個總冠軍
賽車設計也缺乏突破
可能toyota始終都是做大量生產的材料
耐用性高才是他們的重點😆
始終是研發人才和車隊文化問題
就以schumi去ferrari為例, 當時同期也有jean todt和ross brawn加盟
才做到由管理, 賽車到比賽三方面的全面結合
renault也起碼有老布無條件支持alonso才能造就兩個總冠軍
賽車設計也缺乏突破
可能toyota始終都是做大量生產的材料
耐用性高才是他們的重點😆
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Toyota要翻身並非不可能的事情
現任Toyota的空力設計師 根本不是什麼大咖
而且Toyota少了 技術總監(Head of technical department) 及 主任設計師 (Chief designer)這類的人員
簡單說就是少了舵手
別忘了 現在在自由市場有幾個 有能力的設計師
Ferrari :Chief aerodynamicist : John Iley(英) 這位我是不知道他幾時才能就業
RB: Technical director : Geoff Willis(英) 這位被Honda解雇之後 Honda就一蹶不振
BGP :Deputy technical director : Jörg Zander(德) 非常有經驗的設計師 toyota BMW Honda BGP都待過 BGP001的年初強勢及穩定 他也有一份功勞
這三位 隨便挖一位 Toyota兩年內一定可以翻身
現任Toyota的空力設計師 根本不是什麼大咖
而且Toyota少了 技術總監(Head of technical department) 及 主任設計師 (Chief designer)這類的人員
簡單說就是少了舵手
別忘了 現在在自由市場有幾個 有能力的設計師
Ferrari :Chief aerodynamicist : John Iley(英) 這位我是不知道他幾時才能就業
RB: Technical director : Geoff Willis(英) 這位被Honda解雇之後 Honda就一蹶不振
BGP :Deputy technical director : Jörg Zander(德) 非常有經驗的設計師 toyota BMW Honda BGP都待過 BGP001的年初強勢及穩定 他也有一份功勞
這三位 隨便挖一位 Toyota兩年內一定可以翻身
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2009/10/05 14:35:32
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如果可以的話 還有Pat Symonds...
Toyota的引擎並不差
隊伍資源也是數一數二的豐富
只差一位懂得用人的領導
Toyota的引擎並不差
隊伍資源也是數一數二的豐富
只差一位懂得用人的領導
To buy list: 300ZX TT, EVO3, MR2 Gen5 Turbo, CRX...
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Pat Symonds 雷諾那位對吧
他五年不能碰F1
能找他嗎?
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2009/10/05 14:50:52
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Pat Symonds 雷諾那位對吧 他五年不能碰F1 能找他嗎? | ||||||||||||
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所以才說"如果"... 😰
Toyota不是會放權力給其他人帶隊的車隊
不同於Renault全權交由Flavio管理
找來再多的人才都不如交給一個有能力管理的人
Brawn才去Honda一年就改頭換面 Toyota當然也可以
最佳人選應該是Gerhard Berger
只是Toyota不願放權也是無用😌
To buy list: 300ZX TT, EVO3, MR2 Gen5 Turbo, CRX...
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所以才說"如果"... 😰 Toyota不是會放權力給其他人帶隊的車隊 不同於Renault全權交由Flavio管理 找來再多的人才都不如交給一個有能力管理的人 Brawn才去Honda一年就改頭換面 Toyota當然也可以 最佳人選應該是Gerhard Berger 只是Toyota不願放權也是無用😌 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Toyota併購Aston Martin
找David Richards來當領隊😆
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2009/10/05 15:10:08
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Toyota併購Aston Martin 找David Richards來當領隊😆 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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還是要看Toyota願不願意放權給David
光看Mike Gascoyne的下場我就不覺得Toyota爬得起來...😌
如果David不能全權處理 那自己跑Pro Drive就好了😆
Pro Drive如果進F-1保證幹掉Toyota...
To buy list: 300ZX TT, EVO3, MR2 Gen5 Turbo, CRX...
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完全放權給Mike Gascoyne
過一年 就變得跟BGP一樣(Toyota不玩 隔年拿冠軍)😆
過一年 就變得跟BGP一樣(Toyota不玩 隔年拿冠軍)😆
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小日本是什麼企業文化呢?
怎麼限制很多,綁手綁腳的感覺!!!
座駕
1995年VW GOLF 3代
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2009/10/05 16:31:14
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這個就很困難了
Toyota基地設在德國就造成先天上的困難
德國勞工法規很嚴格 不能亂裁人
眾家大車隊都設在英國是有原因的 賽車工業基礎設備太完善
那個環境不是德國可以比的
法拉利是特例 不一樣 是義大利國家隊😆
在德國設廠也只有Toyota這個口袋很深的車隊可以撐得起
如果Toyota說不玩了 Mike可沒那個屁股去頂車隊
我比較想要看David Richards, Gerhard Berger再亂入F-1😆
To buy list: 300ZX TT, EVO3, MR2 Gen5 Turbo, CRX...
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這個就很困難了 Toyota基地設在德國就造成先天上的困難 德國勞工法規很嚴格 不能亂裁人 眾家大車隊都設在英國是有原因的 賽車工業基礎設備太完善 那個環境不是德國可以比的 法拉利是特例 不一樣 是義大利國家隊😆 在德國設廠也只有Toyota這個口袋很深的車隊可以撐得起 如果Toyota說不玩了 Mike可沒那個屁股去頂車隊 我比較想要看David Richards, Gerhard Berger再亂入F-1😆 | ||||||||||||
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Gerhard Berger不已經是Toro Rosso的老闆
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2009/10/05 16:59:26
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Gerhard去年十一月底就賣了50%股份回去給Dietrich Mateschitz
現在是自由身 應該是在幫Bruno Senna弄個位置吧
最快的方法就是找個隊伍帶 順便把Bruno弄進F-1
To buy list: 300ZX TT, EVO3, MR2 Gen5 Turbo, CRX...
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豐田、邁凱倫、紅牛可能都向kimi招手~但是
kimi也可能就此退出F1
因為
這實在
是
太
...
猜 可能是去豐田當一號車手
因為其他兩隊都已經有一號車手了~
kimi也可能就此退出F1
因為
這實在
是
太
...
猜 可能是去豐田當一號車手
因為其他兩隊都已經有一號車手了~
Never give up~
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Mclaren 應該已經破局了
價碼談不攏
價碼談不攏
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TOTOYA會不會放棄F1比較快丫？
「千萬別跟豬打架，這只會讓你變髒，卻讓豬樂在其中。」
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KIMI跟小黑現在才差兩分
除了車隊之爭(都沒冠軍望了爭面子)
會不會也是KIMI回不回邁凱輪的指標?
除了車隊之爭(都沒冠軍望了爭面子)
會不會也是KIMI回不回邁凱輪的指標?
