蘋果 ~ Toyota Camry Hybrid道路實測
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油電車本來就是訴求比較省油, 只不過車廠的三十公里/公升太過誇張了...😌
娶了個日本小老婆去義大利小島渡假~
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那沒有比偶的柴油車好多少 ~~~ 😲😲
X 泰果真是很會行銷 & 賣車 😆😆😆😆😆
X 泰果真是很會行銷 & 賣車 😆😆😆😆😆
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頂一下 ~~~ 😆😆😆
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回應 dave1120 (低調小跟班) 所寫建議您換這輛, 不用吃石化燃料~ 😀😍
娶了個日本小老婆去義大利小島渡假~
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希望台灣的司法可以向米國一樣
買台車還可以告車商
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/30/as-civic-hybrid-mileage-lawsuit-continues-honda-shows-up/
As Civic Hybrid mileage lawsuit continues, Honda shows up
Heather Peters is suing Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the lackluster fuel economy she's gotten out of her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid. It isn't really a new lawsuit, it's one that sprung from Peters not signing onto the settlement of an earlier class-action lawsuit brought by one John True, who sued Honda over the same issue. The meat of the claim is that Honda's window sticker attested to an EPA combined 42 miles per gallon figure, but unhappy drivers are getting closer to 32 mpg.
True's suit was settled out of court in 2009 and plaintiffs have until February 11, 2012 to partake of redress that the Attorneys General of 26 states declared "not fair, adequate or reasonable." Peters didn't sign on, taking her own case to small-claims court where cases aren't tried by lawyers. According to Automotive.com, Honda's point man Neil Schmidt didn't appear at the previous hearing, but this time he showed up and provided several dossiers to Commissioner Carnahan. Most of the paperwork submitted into evidence was reportedly "testimony from happy Civic Hybrid owners," which the judge dismissed.
Schmidt first suggested that Peters did not adhere to the right service procedures with her car, then Honda's EPA certification engineer said that Honda had no option but to follow the EPA's testing procedures. While that is correct regarding following testing protocol, Peters argued that automakers have the discretion to use lower fuel economy numbers in their advertising and on Monroneys if they see the need. Peters claims Honda didn't lower the number because it was trying to take advantage of "the green revolution."
Some observers believe the reduced mileage is an effect of a mandatory software upgrade applied to 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids. The upgrade was meant "not just to prolong the life of the battery, [but] it also helps improve the performance." While there were complaints about the mileage before (as there are of a great many cars), it was after the upgrade that forums began to light up with tales of poorer mileage. That could have been because the upgrade reduced the car's reliance on the battery, a fix to allegedly offset the battery deteriorating more quickly than Honda anticipated.
Commissioner Carnahan is expected to rule on the case as soon as next week. Peters hopes it's before the February 11 deadline to participate in True's lawsuit settlement. At stake is not just the $10,000 Peters is seeking, but a figure potentially in the billions as other unhappy owners could flock to lawyer-free small-claims court to fight their cases. In the event of a loss, Honda is expected to appeal, to which Peters says, "I'm ready!"
買台車還可以告車商
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/30/as-civic-hybrid-mileage-lawsuit-continues-honda-shows-up/
As Civic Hybrid mileage lawsuit continues, Honda shows up
Heather Peters is suing Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the lackluster fuel economy she's gotten out of her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid. It isn't really a new lawsuit, it's one that sprung from Peters not signing onto the settlement of an earlier class-action lawsuit brought by one John True, who sued Honda over the same issue. The meat of the claim is that Honda's window sticker attested to an EPA combined 42 miles per gallon figure, but unhappy drivers are getting closer to 32 mpg.
True's suit was settled out of court in 2009 and plaintiffs have until February 11, 2012 to partake of redress that the Attorneys General of 26 states declared "not fair, adequate or reasonable." Peters didn't sign on, taking her own case to small-claims court where cases aren't tried by lawyers. According to Automotive.com, Honda's point man Neil Schmidt didn't appear at the previous hearing, but this time he showed up and provided several dossiers to Commissioner Carnahan. Most of the paperwork submitted into evidence was reportedly "testimony from happy Civic Hybrid owners," which the judge dismissed.
Schmidt first suggested that Peters did not adhere to the right service procedures with her car, then Honda's EPA certification engineer said that Honda had no option but to follow the EPA's testing procedures. While that is correct regarding following testing protocol, Peters argued that automakers have the discretion to use lower fuel economy numbers in their advertising and on Monroneys if they see the need. Peters claims Honda didn't lower the number because it was trying to take advantage of "the green revolution."
Some observers believe the reduced mileage is an effect of a mandatory software upgrade applied to 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids. The upgrade was meant "not just to prolong the life of the battery, [but] it also helps improve the performance." While there were complaints about the mileage before (as there are of a great many cars), it was after the upgrade that forums began to light up with tales of poorer mileage. That could have been because the upgrade reduced the car's reliance on the battery, a fix to allegedly offset the battery deteriorating more quickly than Honda anticipated.
Commissioner Carnahan is expected to rule on the case as soon as next week. Peters hopes it's before the February 11 deadline to participate in True's lawsuit settlement. At stake is not just the $10,000 Peters is seeking, but a figure potentially in the billions as other unhappy owners could flock to lawyer-free small-claims court to fight their cases. In the event of a loss, Honda is expected to appeal, to which Peters says, "I'm ready!"
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繼上次螢幕中央大大的18.2之後，最近又看到大大的32出現在螢幕中央了😆
可見和泰真的是寡廉鮮恥😆
可見和泰真的是寡廉鮮恥😆
我是優卡好寶寶！
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單就法律的白紙黑字來說, 廣告不實確實是可以告的. 但在台灣的風土民情之下, 應當是....😌😌😌
娶了個日本小老婆去義大利小島渡假~
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2012/02/21 09:17:25
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2012/02/21 09:17:25
發文IP 242.32.*.*
是說有誰尖峰時段開市區不開空調的? [無辜] 這樣的數據 .... 是比柴佛市區表現好. 只是我還是買不起..... [無辜]
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2012/02/21 09:18:27
發文IP 242.32.*.*
是說有誰尖峰時段開市區不開空調的? [無辜] 這樣的數據 .... 是比柴佛市區表現好. 只是我還是買不起..... [無辜]
我還是等 1.6 TDCi + PS + ESP來解救我吧 .... [無辜][傻笑]
我還是等 1.6 TDCi + PS + ESP來解救我吧 .... 😇😆
四十年房貸+助學貸款? 是銀行想騙未來年輕人當奴工吧?
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單就法律的白紙黑字來說, 廣告不實確實是可以告的. 但在台灣的風土民情之下, 應當是....😌😌😌 | ||||||||||||
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應該也要告能源局吧...😆
每次都有新奇的數據出來...😩😵
"手套"這詞是woo大他專用的...
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您不妨先去試試Peugeot 308 1.6柴油引擎搭配的那一套Micro Hybrid. 🙂
娶了個日本小老婆去義大利小島渡假~
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您不妨先去試試Peugeot 308 1.6柴油引擎搭配的那一套Micro Hybrid. 🙂 | ||||||||||||
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Peugeot 308 .... 也是百萬, 國內會修法國車與義大利車的師傅....更少😇. 真有時間與$$去享受法國車, 優先考慮Peugeot 5008 .😆...目前階段=>謝謝再連絡. 😇
四十年房貸+助學貸款? 是銀行想騙未來年輕人當奴工吧?
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16.7算非常誇張了....油電車有他特定的開法,這次蘋果測試是很隨意的踩法
我也看過mondeo ecoboost 市區油耗實際只有6 左右
16.7對上6 嗯......不知道是哪間車廠不知羞恥~~
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一般1.5升小車,純鬧區也只有8~10左右😀
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單就法律的白紙黑字來說, 廣告不實確實是可以告的. 但在台灣的風土民情之下, 應當是....😌😌😌 | ||||||||||||
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+1 😌😌😌
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廣告不算不實阿
他的確是拿政府的能源局公告數據來宣傳
且哪家車廠不是這樣呢?
其他車廠公告的數值
大家就一定跑的出來了嗎?
真的要檢討的是能源局公告的測試方式或基準
我若是和泰
發現送測的結果如此的快樂
當然更要好好拿出來大肆宣揚一番阿
畢竟是政府背書的數據......
他的確是拿政府的能源局公告數據來宣傳
且哪家車廠不是這樣呢?
其他車廠公告的數值
大家就一定跑的出來了嗎?
真的要檢討的是能源局公告的測試方式或基準
我若是和泰
發現送測的結果如此的快樂
當然更要好好拿出來大肆宣揚一番阿
畢竟是政府背書的數據......
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福特可沒有把油耗數字大大的貼在螢幕中央😴
我是優卡好寶寶！
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🙂
小弟女王上一台坐駕, 純市區平均都約14KM/L,
而且行李箱比這小小的頭又大蓋沒力~大多了
重點是~ 蓋沒力竟然沒有 ISOFIX
😇
為了避免廣大朋友傷心, 自己出去~現在~
小弟女王上一台坐駕, 純市區平均都約14KM/L,
而且行李箱比這小小的頭又大蓋沒力~大多了
重點是~ 蓋沒力竟然沒有 ISOFIX
😇
為了避免廣大朋友傷心, 自己出去~現在~
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題外話...
（偷偷伸版大頭貼全套）
（偷偷伸版大頭貼全套）
我是優卡好寶寶！
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2012/02/21 09:04:15
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2012/02/21 09:04:50
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2012/02/21 09:13:19
發文IP 239.251.*.*
http://tw.nextmedia.com/subapple/article/art_id/34038243/IssueID/20120221
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Camry Hybrid以國產中大型房車之姿上市了，經濟部能源局公布市區油耗32.28km/L
Camry Hybrid拜起步階段使用電能、車停紅綠燈引擎又處於不運作狀態，
因此能源局模擬測試的市區油耗達到32.28km/L、平均油耗19.4km/L。
實際上，我們刻意於下班5、6點的交通尖峰時刻，從台北天母行經台北車站再開到新北市新莊，
沿途開空調、聽音樂，結果整趟市區路程平均油耗是16.7km/L
儘管實測值與能源局成績有所落差，但城市尖鋒交通路段有此水準也相當驚人。