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台灣機油市場中 一堆大廠的 100% Fully synthetic 機油都是PAO基礎油 Mobil 1 的油品就是都用PAO 其它 SHELL , TOTAL 也都是這樣 有些美系機油確實會用氫裂解油當成全合成油 但是不是除了你所謂的AMSOIL以外都不是 | ||||||||||||
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回應 allenyehtw (Allen Yeh) 所寫因為現在汽車大廠(原廠)指定用油越來越高級，當然許多大廠的部分潤滑油品目前也有PAO的規格，但是AMS機油
PAO的規格於一開始AMSOIL有這個品牌時就已經使用PAO基礎油來製油了。如果有興趣的話可以看看同樣產品，AMS機油的TBN數值也比一般的高。
#133
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除了台灣之外，在歐美當他們提到有關100% fully synthetic，也就是泛指第四類的基礎油(PAO)
但是在台灣，市面上所提到的100% fully snythetic其實只有到第三類而已
http://www.lllube.com/ch/Article.asp?AID=4
大部分AMSOIL的產品，都是為第四類的油品
如: 5W30、10W30、5W40、10W40，20W50等都是第四類100% fully synthetic oil PAO的潤滑油品
在目前市面上，有是屬於此規格含有PAO成分的第四類油品幾乎都不便宜
😍
但是在台灣，市面上所提到的100% fully snythetic其實只有到第三類而已
http://www.lllube.com/ch/Article.asp?AID=4
大部分AMSOIL的產品，都是為第四類的油品
如: 5W30、10W30、5W40、10W40，20W50等都是第四類100% fully synthetic oil PAO的潤滑油品
在目前市面上，有是屬於此規格含有PAO成分的第四類油品幾乎都不便宜
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1.8萬換油太久了吧,再怎麼樣也頂多1萬就要換了 | ||||||||||||
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AMS機油，美國官方網站
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/asl.aspx
SERVICE LIFE
AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for extended drain intervals in unmodified(1), mechanically sound(2) gasoline fueled vehicles as follows:
• Normal Service(3) – Up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
一般使用狀況----25,000英里或1年
• Severe Service(4) – Up to 15,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
重度使用狀況----15,000英里或一年
以上得知，由於在台灣使用狀況相較於美國環境差(天氣，距離，路況，開車習性)等等之類的，所以18,000KM(12,000英里)
這樣算客氣了，以環保及省錢的概念之下，一年換一次機油可省你的荷包也可提倡環保的概念呢!!
前往討論：請問各位族友們都用哪個牌子的機油阿
#77
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很多所謂"全合成"在台灣其實是第三類的機油，但是其實好的合成油是要到第四類
才真正算是全合成。
使用第四類的全合成(Fully Synthetic PAO)正常駕車的情況下，應該是比較順，且轉數比教好拉，但是這些是小的差別
但是真正的差別為，引擎磨損力低，朋友2.0 VOLVO TURBO已開了175000公里，從來不需要做引擎的修護(渦輪根本也不需要更換喔)
第四類全合成機油 http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=442
使用壽命
AMSOIL 5W-30 PAO磁護長效機油根據下述情形，針對非經改裝過的(1)、機械運轉狀況良好的(2)汽油燃料系統之汽車，建議可延長機油更換時間：
˙ 正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
˙ 重度使用情形(4) ─ 可達10,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
才真正算是全合成。
使用第四類的全合成(Fully Synthetic PAO)正常駕車的情況下，應該是比較順，且轉數比教好拉，但是這些是小的差別
但是真正的差別為，引擎磨損力低，朋友2.0 VOLVO TURBO已開了175000公里，從來不需要做引擎的修護(渦輪根本也不需要更換喔)
第四類全合成機油 http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=442
使用壽命
AMSOIL 5W-30 PAO磁護長效機油根據下述情形，針對非經改裝過的(1)、機械運轉狀況良好的(2)汽油燃料系統之汽車，建議可延長機油更換時間：
˙ 正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
˙ 重度使用情形(4) ─ 可達10,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
前往討論：機油, 是歐系， 日系， 美系 較優呢?
#63
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Agip 250/一瓶---5000KM
AMS機油 399/一瓶---18000KM
哪一個比較划算呢???
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AMS機油 399/一瓶---18000KM
哪一個比較划算呢???
😰
前往討論：請問各位族友們都用哪個牌子的機油阿
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先聲明..無關機油的事.. 我父親的車...某日系國產車 每次都漏完加4L的機油&油芯...N次後.. 某天心血來潮想說用抽的看看... 花了我新台幣2000塊買一台手動抽油機 ... 卻抽出4.2L~4.3L左右的機油 也就是說...用漏的只漏出3.7L~3.8L | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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油底殼不是完全平的，所以看是從哪裡抽
所以最好適用漏出的方式，機油芯也會殘留一點機油在上面
前往討論：機油要固定用同個廠牌比較好??
#67
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一分錢一分貨囉!!
寶貝愛車還是乖乖照顧的好
AMS機油 10w-30
節能省油、AMS機油 10w-30
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
總鹼價 12.2
正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
😆
寶貝愛車還是乖乖照顧的好
AMS機油 10w-30
節能省油、AMS機油 10w-30
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
總鹼價 12.2
正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
😆
前往討論：關於機油一問
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| TBN是總鹼價 代表中和酸性的能力 一般來說 TBN高代表比較耐用 但是似乎不是高就好這麼單純 記得中油的9000系列 SL的TBN就比SJ低 | |||
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當然能選用級數較高的機油且TBN值也比較高是最好囉
😀
#123
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柴油引擎較重要的地方就是引擎內盡量保持乾淨
使用量大，更換機油時所行駛公里數也已較高
所以數值比較高的TBN值機油，對柴油引擎也比較有幫助
🙂
使用量大，更換機油時所行駛公里數也已較高
所以數值比較高的TBN值機油，對柴油引擎也比較有幫助
🙂
#118
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TBN數值可告訴我們機油的好壞，所以只要去看他的是數字越高，也就可以說機油品是越好的
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
˙ 正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
Simple easy way to tell how good a motor oil is, by looking at the TBN number. Higher is better.
Total Base Numbers (TBN) : a higher TBN means the additive package and base stock is more robust. This combats acid and contamination longer for a longer drain interval.
Mobil 1 0W-40
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.3
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.asp
AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)
Total Base Number 13.2
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/sso.aspx
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil (ATM) [revised as of 10/07]
Total Base Number 12.2
Castrol edge sport 0w-40 TBN 6.6
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/castrol/EDGE%20Range/EDGE%20Sport%200W-40.pdf
Motul 8100 X-Lite 0w-30 TBN 11.2
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/MOTUL/8100-X-lite-0W-30-8413(GB).pdf
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
˙ 正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
Simple easy way to tell how good a motor oil is, by looking at the TBN number. Higher is better.
Total Base Numbers (TBN) : a higher TBN means the additive package and base stock is more robust. This combats acid and contamination longer for a longer drain interval.
Mobil 1 0W-40
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.3
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.asp
AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)
Total Base Number 13.2
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/sso.aspx
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil (ATM) [revised as of 10/07]
Total Base Number 12.2
Castrol edge sport 0w-40 TBN 6.6
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/castrol/EDGE%20Range/EDGE%20Sport%200W-40.pdf
Motul 8100 X-Lite 0w-30 TBN 11.2
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/MOTUL/8100-X-lite-0W-30-8413(GB).pdf
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AMS機油 10w-30
節能省油、100%全合成PAO
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
總鹼價 12.2
正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
😆
節能省油、100%全合成PAO
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
總鹼價 12.2
正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
😆
#28
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我用原廠的MAZDA, VOLVO機油芯，原廠之外的較便宜，耗損率較高
前往討論：大家都用原廠的機油濾沁嗎??
#61
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AMS機油 10w-30
節能省油、100%全合成PAO
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
總鹼價 12.2
正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
節能省油、100%全合成PAO
http://www.lllube.com/ch/product-view.asp?SProID=263
總鹼價 12.2
正常使用情形(3) ─ 可達18,000公里或9個月，視何者先行達到而定。
前往討論：請問各位族友們都用哪個牌子的機油阿
#116
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TBN數值可告訴我們機油的好壞，所以只要去看他的是數字越高，也就可以說機油品是越好的
Simple easy way to tell how good a motor oil is, by looking at the TBN number. Higher is better.
Total Base Numbers (TBN) : a higher TBN means the additive package and base stock is more robust. This combats acid and contamination longer for a longer drain interval.
Mobil 1 0W-40
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.3
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.asp
AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)
Total Base Number 13.2
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/sso.aspx
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil (ATM) [revised as of 10/07]
Total Base Number 12.2
Castrol edge sport 0w-40 TBN 6.6
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/castrol/EDGE%20Range/EDGE%20Sport%200W-40.pdf
Motul 8100 X-Lite 0w-30 TBN 11.2
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/MOTUL/8100-X-lite-0W-30-8413(GB).pdf
Simple easy way to tell how good a motor oil is, by looking at the TBN number. Higher is better.
Total Base Numbers (TBN) : a higher TBN means the additive package and base stock is more robust. This combats acid and contamination longer for a longer drain interval.
Mobil 1 0W-40
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.3
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.asp
AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)
Total Base Number 13.2
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/sso.aspx
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil (ATM) [revised as of 10/07]
Total Base Number 12.2
Castrol edge sport 0w-40 TBN 6.6
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/castrol/EDGE%20Range/EDGE%20Sport%200W-40.pdf
Motul 8100 X-Lite 0w-30 TBN 11.2
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/MOTUL/8100-X-lite-0W-30-8413(GB).pdf
#114
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Quote: “High-Temperature/High-Shear
This test is a simulation of the shearing effects that would occur within an engine. In fact, it's actually designed to simulate motor oil viscosity in operating crankshaft bearings.
Under high stress conditions where shearing can occur, the VI Improvers (polymers) break down. As they do, the viscosity of the oil decreases. This is what the High Temperature/High Shear test checks for.
The HT/HS test is measured in Centipoise (cP) as the Cold Crank Simulator test is. However, in this case, because you're hoping for the least loss of viscosity with an increase in heat and stress, you want the cP value to remain high.
Each SAE multi-viscosity grade has a specific lower limit for the HT/HS cP value. If a multi-viscosity oil cannot achieve a cP value above that limit, it cannot be classified under that viscosity grade. For instance, according to the SAE specifications, an oil must achieve an HT/HS cP value of 3.7 or higher in order to be classified at the 15w40 viscosity grade. The thinner the oil the lower the number”.
HTHS is a indication of ranking or performance for that viscosity rating. Does not indicate if the specific performance of that lubricant is bad or good. Good indication of cold flow and fluid flow. Lower the level for lighter viscosity. Higher the level for thicker viscosity. Please read your car manufactures owners manual to determine the proper viscosity and motor oil. For your driving condition and environment.
HTHC 為表示機油濃度比較低的數字越省油，
但是任何的機油使用方法，還是建議看原廠的使用說明，會更安全
This test is a simulation of the shearing effects that would occur within an engine. In fact, it's actually designed to simulate motor oil viscosity in operating crankshaft bearings.
Under high stress conditions where shearing can occur, the VI Improvers (polymers) break down. As they do, the viscosity of the oil decreases. This is what the High Temperature/High Shear test checks for.
The HT/HS test is measured in Centipoise (cP) as the Cold Crank Simulator test is. However, in this case, because you're hoping for the least loss of viscosity with an increase in heat and stress, you want the cP value to remain high.
Each SAE multi-viscosity grade has a specific lower limit for the HT/HS cP value. If a multi-viscosity oil cannot achieve a cP value above that limit, it cannot be classified under that viscosity grade. For instance, according to the SAE specifications, an oil must achieve an HT/HS cP value of 3.7 or higher in order to be classified at the 15w40 viscosity grade. The thinner the oil the lower the number”.
HTHS is a indication of ranking or performance for that viscosity rating. Does not indicate if the specific performance of that lubricant is bad or good. Good indication of cold flow and fluid flow. Lower the level for lighter viscosity. Higher the level for thicker viscosity. Please read your car manufactures owners manual to determine the proper viscosity and motor oil. For your driving condition and environment.
HTHC 為表示機油濃度比較低的數字越省油，
但是任何的機油使用方法，還是建議看原廠的使用說明，會更安全
#111
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網站上面有看到說5W40 SM級是100%PAO全合成
我試著看看美國他們的網站是不是也這樣寫的
有看到他們網站上好像有電話或email，可以問看看
今天來打打看😀
我試著看看美國他們的網站是不是也這樣寫的
有看到他們網站上好像有電話或email，可以問看看
今天來打打看😀
#106
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最近聽說有在台灣可以買到AMSOIL的產品
www.LLLube.com
可是上去看看在一起討論
www.LLLube.com
可是上去看看在一起討論
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