該買 Toyota RAV4 還是 Mazda CX-7 ?
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| 昨天已跑過幾間Dealer，發現這兩台的報價都差不多，讓我很猶豫到底要買哪一台；看過很多資料之後，還是無法解決我的困惱，只能說兩台各有各的好處，想要聽聽看大家的意見，或許會讓我有不同的觀點。 我只考慮這兩台車： Mazda CX-7 Sport AWD 〔MSRP - 26045〕 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport AWD 〔MSRP - 26485〕 其他的廢話我就不多打了（像是CX-7外型比較正之類的...），但一時之間也不知道該打些什麼，所以如果有什麼不清楚的再問我吧，會再補上，期待哪位有見地的人可以來幫忙分析一下，感謝~~ 以上我也在知識+上發問, 請大家給點建議吧, 謝謝 !! http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1607022302876 ps. 目前人在Portlant,OR 所以買車還免稅. 😆 | |||
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回應 zack326 (increasing) 所寫台灣還沒有這兩部車,可能沒有人給你很好的意見,不過就外觀來看CX-7比較漂亮
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台灣還沒有這兩部車,可能沒有人給你很好的意見,不過就外觀來看CX-7比較漂亮 | ||||||||||||
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這兩部車外型都不怎麼樣，RAV4比CRV醜，CX-7不過就是馬5的姐妹車，看圖片看不出兩著差別在哪?如果屆時引進的話絕對兩敗俱傷!
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Toyota RAV4在台灣上市的機會非常非常渺茫
Mazda CX-7的在台灣上市的機會還比較大😆
Mazda CX-7的在台灣上市的機會還比較大😆
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這兩部車外型都不怎麼樣，RAV4比CRV醜，CX-7不過就是馬5的姐妹車，看圖片看不出兩著差別在哪?如果屆時引進的話絕對兩敗俱傷! | |||
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恩...😲
Mazda 5 和 CX-7 外型上真的差很多耶
CX-7 殺多了~~
如果真是姐妹車
那這妹妹可定比姐姐辣多了 😊
而且兩顆心臟也差太多了
M 5 = 153 @ 6500 rpm & 148 @ 4500 rpm
CX-7 = 244 @ 5000 rpm & 258 @ 2500 rpm
我覺得如果CX-7在台開賣的話
應該會賣的不錯
可能又會變成台客車吧 😰
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If you like CX-7, you need to consider the gas/mileage.
18/24 FWD per gallon from Mazda report.
16/22 AWD.
You probably get 16/22 FWD in the real road.
AWD even worse.😩
RAV4 is the most fuel economic one.
24/30 4x2 from Toyota
23/27 4x4
I got average 22 on my new 4x4 very first tank in the real road.
Should get better later on.😇
Cargo space:
RAV4 >(close to) CRV >> CX-7
Performance:
CX-7 >> RAV4 > CR-V (RAV4 has V6 option)
I tested both CX-7 and RAV4.
CX-7 is amazing 😀😍 excellent handling.
Go almost 50 mh on the speed limited 25 mh highway ramp and still good..
Transmission is smooth like silk .(does not know its reliability)
Acceleration is really good on turbo charge.(may feel a little bit lag)
Looks sporty and nice interior.
RAV4 is really good design for more practical usage.
Really nice cargo space even compare to Highlander.
Car handling is also good. Of course Toyota's reliability is better than Mazda.
And gas/mileage is much better than CX-7 even you choose V6.
Then I choose RAV4 😌 because fuel economic and it has 3rd row seat option.(7 passengers)
(3rd row seat is still small but for kids and small adults on a short trip are ok)
If I don't have kids, I will buy CX-7.
But now gas price is high and need to think about future.
RAV4 is my final decision.😞
18/24 FWD per gallon from Mazda report.
16/22 AWD.
You probably get 16/22 FWD in the real road.
AWD even worse.😩
RAV4 is the most fuel economic one.
24/30 4x2 from Toyota
23/27 4x4
I got average 22 on my new 4x4 very first tank in the real road.
Should get better later on.😇
Cargo space:
RAV4 >(close to) CRV >> CX-7
Performance:
CX-7 >> RAV4 > CR-V (RAV4 has V6 option)
I tested both CX-7 and RAV4.
CX-7 is amazing 😀😍 excellent handling.
Go almost 50 mh on the speed limited 25 mh highway ramp and still good..
Transmission is smooth like silk .(does not know its reliability)
Acceleration is really good on turbo charge.(may feel a little bit lag)
Looks sporty and nice interior.
RAV4 is really good design for more practical usage.
Really nice cargo space even compare to Highlander.
Car handling is also good. Of course Toyota's reliability is better than Mazda.
And gas/mileage is much better than CX-7 even you choose V6.
Then I choose RAV4 😌 because fuel economic and it has 3rd row seat option.(7 passengers)
(3rd row seat is still small but for kids and small adults on a short trip are ok)
If I don't have kids, I will buy CX-7.
But now gas price is high and need to think about future.
RAV4 is my final decision.😞
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2007/04/11 20:52:13
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推薦，另一選擇：
★Mitsubishi Outlander★
😍😍😍
★Mitsubishi Outlander★
😍😍😍
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| 昨天已跑過幾間Dealer，發現這兩台的報價都差不多，讓我很猶豫到底要買哪一台；看過很多資料之後，還是無法解決我的困惱，只能說兩台各有各的好處，想要聽聽看大家的意見，或許會讓我有不同的觀點。 我只考慮這兩台車： Mazda CX-7 Sport AWD 〔MSRP - 26045〕 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport AWD 〔MSRP - 26485〕 其他的廢話我就不多打了（像是CX-7外型比較正之類的...），但一時之間也不知道該打些什麼，所以如果有什麼不清楚的再問我吧，會再補上，期待哪位有見地的人可以來幫忙分析一下，感謝~~ 以上我也在知識+上發問, 請大家給點建議吧, 謝謝 !! http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1607022302876 ps. 目前人在Portlant,OR 所以買車還免稅. 😆 | |||
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兩款比較rav4比較耐用，維護費低，省油，我比較的是rav4，outlander， Forester，crv ，cross Touran，最後選crv3，因為crv3有cx_7的帥勁，及rav4的耐用，維護費低，省油
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😝 Are you a Toyota dealer or somthing ? Besides, whcih RAV-4 were you talking about ? 2000-2005 model ? or the latest model ? The old one was really good looking but the new model suck. 😞 Don't give the informations just like you knew everything, for us, you are just like another Toyota dealer trying to do some biz here. Get out here kid.
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You should be able to get pretty good bargain for either of them but usually the bargain is bigger for Mazda.
Turbo is very fun to drive but is more expensive to operate. Resale price is awful. Mazda already holds less value and turbo only makes it worse.
Mazdas are recently very stylish but the ability to make reliable cars doesn't catch up as fast as styling. Styling, marketing, engineering and manufacturing are different areas. Manufacturing is the most difficult area for an auto maker to catch the competitors.
I don't like Toyota but T does everything well enough to be able to grow larger and larger.
If I were you, I'll go with Toyota.
Think about if you have an accident and your car is totalled. With RAV4, you can get far more back from the insurance company. This was exactly what happened to us. We were paid 12k by the insurance company from our totalled 6 year-old CRVI(new was 20k). If you drive a Mazda, you will cry. Of course this was an unfortunate thing happened to us. But with a low depreciation car, the outcome turned out pretty fortunate.
Turbo is very fun to drive but is more expensive to operate. Resale price is awful. Mazda already holds less value and turbo only makes it worse.
Mazdas are recently very stylish but the ability to make reliable cars doesn't catch up as fast as styling. Styling, marketing, engineering and manufacturing are different areas. Manufacturing is the most difficult area for an auto maker to catch the competitors.
I don't like Toyota but T does everything well enough to be able to grow larger and larger.
If I were you, I'll go with Toyota.
Think about if you have an accident and your car is totalled. With RAV4, you can get far more back from the insurance company. This was exactly what happened to us. We were paid 12k by the insurance company from our totalled 6 year-old CRVI(new was 20k). If you drive a Mazda, you will cry. Of course this was an unfortunate thing happened to us. But with a low depreciation car, the outcome turned out pretty fortunate.
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你也可以考慮2007 OUTLANDER 〔MSRP - 21995~25635〕
1.3.0 MIVEC V6(220PS/28.1kg-m)
2.6AT手自排+F1式方向盤換檔
3.VSC+TCS
4.650-watt Rockford Fosgate 6-CD/MP3 player+9 speakers
5.7 seats
6.可切換4WD系統(2WD+4WD+4WD LOCK)
我覺得你可以去看看，和CX-7比較一下，如果要省油，引擎運轉順暢安靜就買OUTLANER，CX-7渦輪引擎強勁猛爆，但較耗油，兩台車各有他的優點，看你的使用需求。RAV4就不必看了，因為外型沒有OUTLANDER和CX-7好看，感覺RAV4比較像一台普通的SUV，沒啥特色。
1.3.0 MIVEC V6(220PS/28.1kg-m)
2.6AT手自排+F1式方向盤換檔
3.VSC+TCS
4.650-watt Rockford Fosgate 6-CD/MP3 player+9 speakers
5.7 seats
6.可切換4WD系統(2WD+4WD+4WD LOCK)
我覺得你可以去看看，和CX-7比較一下，如果要省油，引擎運轉順暢安靜就買OUTLANER，CX-7渦輪引擎強勁猛爆，但較耗油，兩台車各有他的優點，看你的使用需求。RAV4就不必看了，因為外型沒有OUTLANDER和CX-7好看，感覺RAV4比較像一台普通的SUV，沒啥特色。
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過年的時候到馬來西亞看過CX-7的實車😍
我覺得跟CR-VC還蠻像的說!!
不要看細部!!大體線條差不多
我覺得跟CR-VC還蠻像的說!!
不要看細部!!大體線條差不多
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| 你也可以考慮2007 OUTLANDER 〔MSRP - 21995~25635〕 1.3.0 MIVEC V6(220PS/28.1kg-m) 2.6AT手自排+F1式方向盤換檔 3.VSC+TCS 4.650-watt Rockford Fosgate 6-CD/MP3 player+9 speakers 5.7 seats 6.可切換4WD系統(2WD+4WD+4WD LOCK) 我覺得你可以去看看，和CX-7比較一下，如果要省油，引擎運轉順暢安靜就買OUTLANER，CX-7渦輪引擎強勁猛爆，但較耗油，兩台車各有他的優點，看你的使用需求。RAV4就不必看了，因為外型沒有OUTLANDER和CX-7好看，感覺RAV4比較像一台普通的SUV，沒啥特色。 | |||
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I am sorry for most of the Mitsubishiners.
Look at the beef you get from a Mitsu. Mitsu always offers far more gadgets than its competitors with very attractive prices. And the bargain is bigger than you expect in many cases. You can always get a way below invoice price when you buy a Mitsu if you know how to bargain in US.
Why? Becasue they can not do the core things right.
The engin runs perfect when it's new. But after roughly 50k miles it starts burning oil.
The electrical system sucks. Many e-equipments go bad faster than they shoul. Battery and alternator die annually.
Manufacturing is horrible. Many plastic parts seperate or loose easily. And the materials are cheap.
Make a long story short, Mitsu cars are not professionally engineered. They may know how to biuld racing cars but they do not make professional mass-production cars.
If a car can not hold its value, there must be a reason and the reason for Mitsu is easy to tell.
They might be doing better than before but I don't believe a dramatic change ecpially for cars.
Hyundai is changing fast but it's still gradual.
For Mitsu? Styling and technology are easier to catch but manufacturing is far more difficult.
Go with Toyota, the chance you will regret is low.
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I am sorry for most of the Mitsubishiners. Look at the beef you get from a Mitsu. Mitsu always offers far more gadgets than its competitors with very attractive prices. And the bargain is bigger than you expect in many cases. You can always get a way below invoice price when you buy a Mitsu if you know how to bargain in US. Why? Becasue they can not do the core things right. The engin runs perfect when it's new. But after roughly 50k miles it starts burning oil. The electrical system sucks. Many e-equipments go bad faster than they shoul. Battery and alternator die annually. Manufacturing is horrible. Many plastic parts seperate or loose easily. And the materials are cheap. Make a long story short, Mitsu cars are not professionally engineered. They may know how to biuld racing cars but they do not make professional mass-production cars. If a car can not hold its value, there must be a reason and the reason for Mitsu is easy to tell. They might be doing better than before but I don't believe a dramatic change ecpially for cars. Hyundai is changing fast but it's still gradual. For Mitsu? Styling and technology are easier to catch but manufacturing is far more difficult. Go with Toyota, the chance you will regret is low. | ||||||||||||
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嘻嘻，我贊成你說的Mitsubishiner部分，在紐西蘭，outlander2.5比crv2.4便宜15%訂價(Mitsubishiner還可議價)還外加3年無限里程免費保養，不過依你老的觀點，你應該更喜歡honda的說一不二，我沒買rav4，原因有3
1是crv大改款，沒suv比它更俊，2是toyota混蛋，rav4在美英的訂價等於crv，在紐西蘭竟然貴18%，3是crv是日本組裝，rav4是澳洲組裝
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I am also a Honda person. But the question is for Toyota or Mazda. And someone gave a Mitsu as an option. I just provide my opinion about these three.
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| 你也可以考慮2007 OUTLANDER 〔MSRP - 21995~25635〕 1.3.0 MIVEC V6(220PS/28.1kg-m) 2.6AT手自排+F1式方向盤換檔 3.VSC+TCS 4.650-watt Rockford Fosgate 6-CD/MP3 player+9 speakers 5.7 seats 6.可切換4WD系統(2WD+4WD+4WD LOCK) 我覺得你可以去看看，和CX-7比較一下，如果要省油，引擎運轉順暢安靜就買OUTLANER，CX-7渦輪引擎強勁猛爆，但較耗油，兩台車各有他的優點，看你的使用需求。RAV4就不必看了，因為外型沒有OUTLANDER和CX-7好看，感覺RAV4比較像一台普通的SUV，沒啥特色。 | |||
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我自己對Mitsubish是相當沒有好感，在台灣的時候周遭會買Mitsubish的朋友，原因就是：好改；到了美國，Mitsubish其實很不吃香，連老美都不太買它們的帳（Nissan都賣的比它好），不過也是因為評價差的關係，如果要買Mitsubish的車，議價空間也會很大，不像Toyota那麼硬。
Outlander實在沒得比耶，外型很主觀，撇去外型不講，光心臟就輸很多了。
Outlander XLS V6：220hp@6,250RPM、204lb.-ft.@4,000RPM
RAV4 Sport V6：269hp@6,200RPM、246lb.-ft.@4,700RPM
CX-7 Sport：244hp@5,000RPM、258lb.-ft.@2,500RPM
Xterra S：261hp@5,600RPM、281lb.-ft.@4,000RPM
當初也有看到Outlander，但心想：買一台心臟本身不強，又跑不久的車，何必...
所以就沒有在Outlander上面停留太久了!!
btw...謝謝大家的建議
我後來是買了RAV4 sport V6
到現在已經開了半年，除了沒有辦法每天徹底發揮車子的性能以外（條子抓太嚴...）
到目前為止都還很滿意，算是一台中規中矩的小野獸.
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明年幾台 SUV
RAV4 進口
mazda CX-7
Outlander 國產
santFe 2.2 國產 5+2 ?
Ford Kuga ??
那 CX-9 會進口嗎 好像只聽到 CX-7 會進口
RAV4 進口
mazda CX-7
Outlander 國產
santFe 2.2 國產 5+2 ?
Ford Kuga ??
那 CX-9 會進口嗎 好像只聽到 CX-7 會進口
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挖 變成英文教學天地囉
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對了 rav4 好像分日規 美規
如果是日本ＲＡＶ４ 還有台vanguard ..
CX-7 會比較大 台
應該比較優
但是 台灣兩台都沒有
要明年才進
如果是日本ＲＡＶ４ 還有台vanguard ..
CX-7 會比較大 台
應該比較優
但是 台灣兩台都沒有
要明年才進
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開版者應該已經買車了, 小弟還是提供一些意見供其他人參考囉!
我在2006年12月底買了一台CX-7, (小弟住在德州) 開到現在一年多了, 只有一句話: 讚! 開起來很舒服, 價格便宜, 操控性能好(我不開off road), 重點是馬力夠, 隨時隨地都可以隨心所欲的加速(當然比不上跑車, 但是在SUV界
算是很不錯了) turbo引擎果然有力. 德州佬開車也很粗礦, 車子排氣量動不動就上5千多, 在上交流道時可是常常被小弟的CX-7拋在後面喲!因為怕上法庭(是的, 超速被抓可能要上法庭), 我只開到時速90英里(約145公里)過, 非常平穩, 風切聲很小. 據說一不小心就會開到110英里, 也是沒什麼感覺,
外型也是一大優點, 因為立體的造型,實車比照片上好看, 適度加大的輪圈外圍(我是說車身容納輪子的外凸部分, 不是說輪子本身)讓流線造型的車身增加了不少肌肉感, 但又不會像一些韓國車一般看久了覺得假假的. 我老婆覺得很像Lexus的SUV, 我是覺得更好看一點.
缺點就是耗油量, 我前一陣子在高速公路開了7個多小時, 載著兩大兩小(10歲和12歲)以及滿滿的行李,中間加油一次, 50元大概可以開380英里吧(油價是一加侖3.3美金, 就請自行換算囉) 大約是1600台幣可以開600公里左右.
如果台灣引進國產化, 馬力勢必會調小(美規是2.4升的turbo引擎), 現在的 CR-V, Escape, X-Trail 就等著靠邊站了.
我在2006年12月底買了一台CX-7, (小弟住在德州) 開到現在一年多了, 只有一句話: 讚! 開起來很舒服, 價格便宜, 操控性能好(我不開off road), 重點是馬力夠, 隨時隨地都可以隨心所欲的加速(當然比不上跑車, 但是在SUV界
算是很不錯了) turbo引擎果然有力. 德州佬開車也很粗礦, 車子排氣量動不動就上5千多, 在上交流道時可是常常被小弟的CX-7拋在後面喲!因為怕上法庭(是的, 超速被抓可能要上法庭), 我只開到時速90英里(約145公里)過, 非常平穩, 風切聲很小. 據說一不小心就會開到110英里, 也是沒什麼感覺,
外型也是一大優點, 因為立體的造型,實車比照片上好看, 適度加大的輪圈外圍(我是說車身容納輪子的外凸部分, 不是說輪子本身)讓流線造型的車身增加了不少肌肉感, 但又不會像一些韓國車一般看久了覺得假假的. 我老婆覺得很像Lexus的SUV, 我是覺得更好看一點.
缺點就是耗油量, 我前一陣子在高速公路開了7個多小時, 載著兩大兩小(10歲和12歲)以及滿滿的行李,中間加油一次, 50元大概可以開380英里吧(油價是一加侖3.3美金, 就請自行換算囉) 大約是1600台幣可以開600公里左右.
如果台灣引進國產化, 馬力勢必會調小(美規是2.4升的turbo引擎), 現在的 CR-V, Escape, X-Trail 就等著靠邊站了.
我只考慮這兩台車：
Mazda CX-7 Sport AWD 〔MSRP - 26045〕
Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport AWD 〔MSRP - 26485〕
其他的廢話我就不多打了（像是CX-7外型比較正之類的...），但一時之間也不知道該打些什麼，所以如果有什麼不清楚的再問我吧，會再補上，期待哪位有見地的人可以來幫忙分析一下，感謝~~
以上我也在知識+上發問, 請大家給點建議吧, 謝謝 !!
http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1607022302876
ps. 目前人在Portlant,OR 所以買車還免稅. 😆